“Artist/Activist” Mos Def, a hip-hop musician
and actor, matched Rosie O'Donnell Friday night on HBO's "Real Time" in espousing a bizarre 9/11 theory which absolves Osama bin
Laden as he also characterized George Washington and the Catholic church
as “terrorists,” and maintained that terrorists have legitimate grievances.
Def contended that “George Washington and all them dudes was terrorists as far as the Queen was concerned,” charged that “the Catholic church's stance about child molestation is a form of terrorism in and of itself” and when asked by host Bill Maher if bin Laden was behind destroying the World Trade Center, declared “absolutely not.” Def asserted that “highly-educated people in all areas of science have spoken on the fishiness around the whole 9/11 theory.”
Going even further over the la-la land, the rapper said that he believed the moon landings were fake: "I don't believe these mother-fuckers have been to the moon either, but that's just me," he said.
A few minutes later, Def defended terrorism as a response to America's misdeeds: “Let's deal with the fact that there are valid reasons even to a lot of terrorists' arguments, quote unquote, terrorists' arguments about why are they frustrated with colonial presence, imperial presence. The way that this government has pursued its foreign interests has been meddlesome, murderously meddlesome.” Directing his ire at President Bush, Def asserted that “this administration and this government has sought to suppress everyone and no one has sought to suppress America in quite the same way,” yet the U.S. goes “to these places and fucking kill[s] people.”
IMDb's bio page for Mos Def, whose birth name was Dante Terrell Smith, with a rundown of his movie and television show roles from Monster's Ball to Spin City to NYPD Blue.
Transcript of some highlights, or lowlights, from the September 7 Real Time with Bill Maher on which Mos Def was joined on the two-man panel by radical far-left Princeton University professor Cornel West:
MOS DEF: When the Revolutionary War was going on, George Washington and all them dudes was terrorists as far as the Queen was concerned. [The Queen? A King ruled Great Britain at that time.]....
DEF: I don't believe it was bin Laden today, I don't believe it was never him. I think it's some dude just standing, I don't even, I can't even believe. I don't even, I'm sorry, I'm from the projects, I know danger. I don't feel no danger from that shit, those mother-fuckers.
BILL MAHER: But you don't think bin Laden knocked down the Word Trade Center?
DEF: Absolutely not.
MAHER: Come on.
DEF: I don't. I don't. You know what, I don't.
MAHER: That's where you lose me, my friend, and I'm so on your side, but you know what.
DEF: In any barbershop I am so not alone, I'm so not alone.
MAHER: That doesn't mean you're right.
DEF: That don't mean it is not valid neither. Highly-educated people in all areas of science have spoken on the fishiness around the whole 9/11 theory. It's like the magic-bullet and all that shit.
MAHER: Then what happened?
DEF: I don't believe these mother-fuckers have been to the moon either, but that's just me.
....
DEF: The Catholic church's stance about child molestation is a form of terrorism in and of itself.
....
DEF: Let's say these terrorist cells and all this al Qaeda is the boogie-man, okay, that's it, right. Why are they upset? Let's deal with the fact that there are valid reasons even to a lot of terrorists' arguments, quote unquote, terrorists' arguments about why are they frustrated with colonial presence, imperial presence. The way that this government has pursued its foreign interests has been meddlesome, murderously meddlesome.
MAHER: I agree with you and, you know, this is how dumb Bush is. He flies into Iraq this week and he lands at this giant base that, by the way, Saddam Hussein built, where there's ten thousand American troops. This is the problem, that they're in the heart of the Muslim world where we have a giant military base. This is a stone in their shoe. They're never going to stop-
DEF: It will be a stone in our shoe. No country has had the access, or even the ambition, to occupy us the, to occupy us, them. This administration-
MAHER: Calm down.
DEF: This administration and this government has sought to suppress everyone and no one has sought to suppress America in quite the same way. No one has even had the ambition. People want to be America's friend. People want to get along. Send me some movies, send me some Levi's, will you hang out with me? Everybody wants to be America's friend and America go to these places and fucking kill people. That shit is crazy.
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center
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Another proud moment for the
September 8, 2007 - 03:26 ET — RackieAnother proud moment for the BLACK COMMUNITY!
What a shame..he played such
September 8, 2007 - 08:53 ET — davy42055What a shame..he played such a good part in a movie called Something thr Lord Made about the first open heart surgury in this country..what a piece of black trash he is.
Darfur, Rwanda?
September 8, 2007 - 04:51 ET — Daniel BakerI wonder how he feels about these subjects, and if we should be "murders" there.
Yes, we're sorry too.
September 8, 2007 - 05:18 ET — SportPoliticsWe're sorry the democrats made sure that " You're from the projects. "
We understand, it's another world, it's not even the USA, and someone like you should not be on TV eckspressin' yourself. Maybe you should go back to the projects, where it's a lot more like Iraq right now than you would like us to believe, but it's not George Bush or the Coalition Forces there in the projects, it's your gang bang bruh's who didn't make it out ta the war zone drug dump the hippy dems gat cha in.
Mhhhm.. it's just crazy weez' killins peoples....
Would you like to give me the war zone death rates of, I'm sorry, where you're from "tha projekz" ?
I suppose there, you think a lot like the "insurgents", huh. It's not much different than tribal families, but yaz callz emz gangs... that's why binny didn't do it, but "tha cops" did, meaning GWB gov ?
Whatever.
" I'm sorry, I'm from the projects." YES WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT TO DEMOCRATS, BUT THEY WON'T LISTEN.
So what is the solution?
September 8, 2007 - 05:55 ET — Parker1227Anyone who thinks this war is just about revenge against America for "meddling" in the Middle East, is "Mos" ignorant.
Islam has been at war with the West (and with any who would dare stand in its way) since its inception almost 14 centuries ago.
Fascist Islamists are gleeful that Leftists have taken this moment in history to turn against their own culture yet again.
We thought the cold war was over, but the tireless ideologues of the Left who were the lap-dogs and excuse makers for Stalin, Castro, and Mao, have now found another group of psychos to flirt with - like a 14-year-old girl bringing home a scum-bag boyfriend to get revenge on her daddy for telling her what to do.
The artist/activist??????
September 8, 2007 - 10:48 ET — motherbeltThe artist/activist?????? So now every "celebrity" who goes on TV and talks trash about the US is an "activist"? ROFL!
Yeah, Mos, you right. They just "want to be America's friend." They just want us to send them some movies, some Levi's, and go "hang out" with them. (The operative word being "hang.")
Another self-made preacher from the Church of Idiocy.
OBL: Fortune teller extrordinaire!
September 8, 2007 - 07:48 ET — Tom1969caSo Mr. Def's rationalle for the 9/11 attacks was that whoever hit us was justified because of "this government('s)" foreign policy? The 9/11 Commission determined that planning for the attacks began as much as five years before they were carried out - that would be, let's see ... 1996.
So either Osama is the world's greatest psychic and knew that come 2001 he'd need a plan to attack America to punish the new administration's foreign policy, or it was Bill Clinton's foreign policy that set him on this course.
Take your pick.
(Of course, everyone on this board knows that the real fault lies with Jimmih Cahtuh; radical Islam really came to the fore on his watch, and he did jack-all about it...)
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If you don't stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them!
Goes to show you that money
September 8, 2007 - 07:51 ET — Richard RomanoGoes to show you that money and fame do very little in terms of giving you wisdom -- in fact, you become dumber and more morally ignorant.
Mos Def -- you are a perfect example of why young people need to turn off their radios and "read a ************* book!"
It's obvious
September 8, 2007 - 07:59 ET — zoro7957...this learned gentleman missed his calling. Why is he wasting his time on a two-bit cable show? He should be walking the hallowed halls of an ivy league school amongst the other erudite scholars.
Yes, and Hitler had
September 8, 2007 - 08:16 ET — WhoIsJohnGaltYes, and Hitler had legitimate grievances as well, right? I mean his country wuz meesed up n' stuff from dem dudes in dat first World War dat messed up his cribz, right?
Holy crap...I read the mindless ramblings of idiots like this and I begin to wonder about giving every citizen the right to vote. Shouldn't we give an exam before twits like this are given the vote? And Maher too!
def
September 8, 2007 - 08:41 ET — zoro7957Now Wijg, you know the rules......only liberals are allowed to use Hitler as a comparison to anybody............
MAHER: I agree with you
September 8, 2007 - 08:50 ET — HypocriteHaterMAHER: I agree with you and, you know, this is how dumb Bush is. He flies into Iraq this week and he lands at this giant base that, by the way, Saddam Hussein built, where there's ten thousand American troops. This is the problem, that they're in the heart of the Muslim world where we have a giant military base. This is a stone in their shoe. They're never going to stop-
I hate to break it to you Billy Boy, but there's talk of the Iraqis actually wanting a permanent US military base in Iraq. Sorry you didn't get the memo.
As for Mos Def or Most Dumb, whatever he wants to call himself, you know nothing of what you speak. You must have been edumacated in a public inner city school thanks to your heros in the democrat party.
This is the bad side of the internet
September 8, 2007 - 09:12 ET — c5thenIt allows whackos and other twits to search each other out and reinforce their twisted and bizzare view of reality. Then, if they happen to be a "famous" person, they get a vehicle to present these bizzarre and strange theories to the world as if they have any merrit at all.
This has to be a close runner up to the answer from Miss Teen South Carolina. The only thing he's missing is the "such as".
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Fred08.com
Whose audience has the
September 8, 2007 - 09:25 ET — TEWhose audience has the bigger collection of kooks, dupes, freaks, fools and idiots: Bill Maher's, Jon Stewart's or Stephen Colbutt's?
This Baffon
September 8, 2007 - 09:40 ET — LCT688This buffoon has all the political acumen of a shoe. Just because he’s made a few bucks exploiting the ignorance of his fellow urban jungle dwellers hardly qualifies him as expert or knowledgeable on anything. He can’t even speak proper English and if it wasn’t for his so-called talent as an “urban poet” I doubt he could secure employment at anything above flipping hamburgers.
The other twit with him is a notorious ‘60’s style black communist college professor. He has either been pumping this ignoramus full of this crap for weeks or either has his had up his butt moving his lips for him.
What a couple of morons!
September 8, 2007 - 09:36 ET — msh1973What a couple of morons!
OMG! Mos Def
September 8, 2007 - 09:49 ET — Ole_SargeDante Terrell Smith and I actually agreed on something???
"DEF: I don't believe it was bin Laden today,"
The latest video release IS NOT Osama bin Laden, Little Dante.
(Why in heck did his parents name him that? Of course with parents named Sheron Smith and Abdul Rahman - what do you expect?)
Has it been released that he's a Islamist? Or lapsed one?
(Mos Def was first exposed to Islam at age 13 by his father. He became a Muslim at age 19 after getting to know Muslim rappers including Ali Shaheed Muhammad and Q-Tip of the group A Tribe Called Quest)
He's just as likely to be killed in this Jihad of theirs as this Catholic girl!
mos stupid
September 8, 2007 - 09:58 ET — DontFeedTheTrollsMos Def is proof that Bill Cosby is right.
Mos Def and his ilk are the 'mos' destructive force in the African American community, ever.
More destructive than the KKK could ever be.
His own children will suffer.
And he is destroying his own community for the cash.
How sad.
D
Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.
Mos Def
September 8, 2007 - 10:05 ET — LilyPearlMos is definitely def to the truth. I don't listen to people who can't put their cap on straight.
This is perfect...we
September 8, 2007 - 10:11 ET — Rastus03This is perfect...we don't need to try and refute these maroons in any way...
Just print their own words for everyone to read, and let them draw their own conclusions...
Anyone this stupid has spent way too much time in the hood listening to the various conspiracy theories that were initiated by liberal Democrats, designed to keep Blacks beholden to them over the years.
Unfortunately, too many of the "horror stories" and legends have evolved from political rhetoric into conventional wisdom within that community...
And they have suffered far too long as a result.
Liberals should be ashamed...but we know they're not.
Hey, that panel is getting
September 8, 2007 - 10:34 ET — gueinHey, that panel is getting a little under-populated. Where's the token conservative?
Mos Def doesn't think we went to the moon. Does he also think that the government blew up the levees in New Orleans? No, don't answer that. Someone that poorly educated will believe anything. I can only imagine someone like John McWhorter on the panel, shaking his head in disgust and wondering if he will ever be taken seriously by a select few of his own people.
Don't you just love the
September 8, 2007 - 10:49 ET — SMGalbraithDon't you just love the patronizing attitude from Maher?
That's where you lose me, my friend, and I'm so on your side, but you know what.
Exactly what "side" is that, "my friend"?
Let me guess: the Chomsky-Zinn "America-is-the-cause-of-every-bit-of-suffering-in-the-world-because-other-people-don't-have-moral agency" side?
SMG
Woof woof
September 8, 2007 - 10:49 ET — Mica the MagnificentInstead of reading what these uneducated jerks say, just read Maher's questions and statements and pretend he's talking to Lassie. The results are the same!
Maher: But you don't believe Bin Laden knocked down the World Trade Center?
Lassie: Woof woof.
Maher: C'mon, Lassie!
Lassie: Woof woof!
Maher: That's where you lose me pal and I'm so on your side.
Lassie: Woof woof
Maher: And then what happened?
Lassie: Woof woof!
Maher: Calm down!
Ahhh, more wisdom and
September 8, 2007 - 10:52 ET — bassndudeAhhh, more wisdom and revelations from one of the uneducated, on the left side of nuts. A proud member of the hollywood stupid crowd. Ignorance must be some kind of reward there. Do these people know anything that is true? Or do they just all think this was on the left coast? Did this guy ever finish the 3rd grade?
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
"I don't believe it was
September 8, 2007 - 10:55 ET — rimsky"I don't believe it was never him.."
Notice he says "us"
September 8, 2007 - 10:58 ET — exLib